The ego thing is very true. (Our North Node rulers often lead us down these blind alleyways.) Sun conj. Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. That is really challenging chart I assume and I dont know whether I go for this guy or not. Will we stay together after we have learned our lesson together? Dear Dawn, One is more transpersonal and numinous, the other deals with our reactions in the day to day world. Im so confused by this mix! We have experienced together so much and it helps my mental developement so much and also your idea about loving and letting go interests me a lot. By the way, in progressions, you very clearly see the influence of both planets at work. Beginning to look at our Composite Chart and come to find a Moon and Mars Conjunction in Leo 12th House. She was in the birth canal waaaay too long. You may keep your feelings for each other to yourselves for various reasons, not feeling comfortable telling them. It confuses us, as is appropriate with a house that Neptune rules. When Saturn is conjunct the North Node it can be particularly ruthless in pursuing its goals. I felt (sorry to say) that he is the big love of my life! Pemo Theodore - Unravelling the Mysteries of Love through the Composite Transit Venus in the Composite 12th House. He seems very able to detach himself and move to the future. intresting to know why its so bad. We challenge each other to be the best versions of ourselves. (Not at all helped by the fact that his Venus is square to my Sun at exact degrees.) One valuable lesson I learned is to refrain being attached to an outcome with him. Now I just have to sit and wait around where it is got to leave us! thank you for your insight, thank you !!! We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness. Beautiful article!! I have learned to surrender much but our relationship isnt surviving, we cant let go altogether and cant seem to be together. Who cares? Curious about the sexual response (if there will be anything), its friendly. Wow, everything in this article is so accurate + written so beautifully. I dont know why im writing you this because uncounsciously know this relationship was all about love and let go. His 12th is in Pisces, along with his Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars. I f these planets and points are emphasized in the synastry chart, chances are that you have dealt with each other before. I have read at least books regarding the 12th house, and its not easy to comprehend the needs of the 12th. Together, they like to dive deeper and deeper into unknown and mysterious beliefs, cultures, territories, and ideas. Good luck. A recent class in assassins revealed that the victims often had many planets in the shooters 12th house. The relationship only lasted a few months but for some reason it has left a deep-seated, soul-touching impression with me. His venus also opposed my Lilith in XII., his Pluto also trine my lilith in XII. It's more difficult if something like the 12th house is emphasized; all that energy pouring into a house whose task is to dissolve and resolve, to . Im sorry, Kyveli, but this is too complex a question to answer in the space here. Since each of us share a natal 12th house dominion, then repeated in a shared composite strength, what you have said in your 12th house explanations all seem to feel so true. I dont know if he felt the same deep feelings but I know he was puzzled by the sex. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. *Composite Chiron conjunct Moon in Taurus in 12th house. One thing is certain, and that is planets in the 12th house dont behave like any other. we activate each others 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 10th and 11th houses also. In the end it was his choice to end it. Chiron in the Composite Chart - | Seeking Truth, Guiding You Our date was perfect but too creepy cause he told his very deep secrets and early regrets to me. In contrast, couples who come together to create something for the collective often have the appropriate planets in the composite 12th, there for all to see. So beautifully written Dawn. I am surprised I did not find it and comment earlier, as I am still haunted by the same relationship 2 years after it ended. Chiron in Taurus 12 th House. . such is the nature of the 12th, beautiful and terrible.! And yes, you need to put the natal charts around the composite to see how this is going to affect the individuals. My 12 is in Leo, along with my Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pluto. I feel ok about it but dont want to attach to it. We all find our gods where we can and must. In traditional astrology this house is often associated with "undoing" or self-sabotage. 12th House seems to be the most frightening of all the houses to me, because the primal urge towards each other is such a deep and profoundly spiritual one, that you think, theres no way I could find this depth with another. Star*Mate Composite Report by Pamela Thompson For him, its TOO many of his own issues. Thank you for your insight. yeah, i think we didnt invest much efforts in getting/staying togetherhowever, when I tried to pursue more, I felt as if I was more needy and I cared more about this relationship, as his respose to my efforts was quite blank and gruff. Im not quick to say its an illusion, but its not quite real either, and you can get into some dangerous territory in the 12th by telling yourself things that arent really true. With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. I can say with absolute confidence that you perfectly captured the essence of this energy. I became reacquainted with a man I grew up with. With a lot of respect for all of your work and wishing you all the best. I have my sun in the 12th house of my natal chart, and we both have venus in the 12th house of our natal charts. In traditional astrology this house is often associated with "undoing" or self-sabotage. This can make them appear easily influenced by others, which could lead them to not knowing what direction they should take with their lives. The 12th house doesnt necessarily mean hidden. Composite 12th house in Taurus= Issues with Stubborness. Once a relationship kicks in (moves beyond the initial stages), the composite Sun becomes more apparent. I met with a guy 2 months ago and when we saw each other, -there is no doubt that- we were both fascinated by each other. Im afraid I cant get into it in this space (in the synastry course, we spend several lessons comparing the midpoint and Davison charts). You can have opportunities to let go and move on from the past, and you can explore your inner worlds . or sth. Besides, his vertex conjunct with my sun and oppose w/ my moon. Planets in the 12th can behave in one of several ways. So much uncertainty and confusion!! Chiron In 12th House Composite, Composite Chiron In Twelfth House Issues from the past can resurface in the partnership when Composite Chiron is in the 12th House. You dont want houses 6/8/12 in a composite for a reason= yes its really not good but the other reason this isn't good is because you have The Sun, Moon and Venus squaring neptune (AND neptune in the 12th house) so there is a VERY high level of delusion like "THIS IS MY SOULMATE" when in fact its your worst enemy who will betray/cheat/manipulate We all have things we come in to this life to accomplish, achieve, or learn. New Classes and Courses Beginning In September! Is there something to be read from this cluster of planets in 12th house? Composite Chart: Composite Ascendant Signs | Cafe Astrology .com The south node lies there on the natal composite. One day , you said that people telegraph their natal theme at every instant of their lives. Judy, Im sorry about your relationship with your daughter. VERY-VERY SORRY! oh gosh do not i know this! what can we do here? They help us understand that our capacity to love is its own reward. Very exquisitely put. The Composite 12th House in Astrology I noticed you dont offer composite readings. any input would be greatly appreciated!!! Aghh! To use Jeff Greens analogy, the ego believes it is an independent entity, but a developed ego is like a wave; it knows it is moving towards the shore, but it also knows that it will return to the ocean to which it belongs, the place of the Source or universal spirit. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. I have 12th house with my partner, but also many Saturn and Pluto Aspects. .why is neptune conjunct sun so bad in composite? Even the sexual draw of 8th house connections can be replaced by more of them down the road, or by the excitement of the 5th. Any insights you may have would be greatly appreciated! I'm going to be discussing the characteristics of Chiron in the 10th house in the birth chart.Follow me Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jaleel.darboIn. My english is not very good. Just a knowing if you will. I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. I was wondering about my composite contacts with some I know who we share 12th house themes with. Moon and Mars both Trine Uranus. Your post was seemed most fitting for a romantic liaison. The Chiron return arrives at age 50, bringing for many a. pinnacle of achievement, authority, boldness, and charisma. where is very intense connection and I can feel things youve described but also I can see it as long term.. Interesting description: it seems like weve followed ourselves around the country for each of our lives and not ever taking the time to learn about each other. You can imagine the past 10 years have not been easy. Whether the energy between them manifests positively or negatively has to do with aspects to Pluto in both charts and aspects with the North Node rulers. When transit Venus is in the composite 12th house, you may enjoy being affectionate with one another when no one else around is around to pry and its just the two of you in a personal relationship. Chiron in Capricorn, Chiron in the 12th House - Astrology Owl Its what happens when a sensitive person loves another human being. There is a lot of love between us, much alignment in our dreams and life goals and a feeling of being soul mates and yet a strange disconnect emotionally that has us often feeling like we are on completely different wavelengths. Im sure a lot of my readers have been there and sympathize with you completely.